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Posted By:eibar
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2010-07-15 03:39:31
So I guess the fact that I wrote an e-mail to the photographer and that he told me it´s an 'Iris Oratoria' won´t count? Try telling him that he´s wrong :P
2010-07-14 21:25:14
In many cases identification of insect species comkes down to minute inspection of their reproductive apparatus, which fact prompted the great geneticist and evolutionary biologist J.B.S. Haldane's famous remark "May their genetalia never fail ya'..."
2010-07-14 18:39:10
Sorry, Picture Girl, I was looking at a different mantid photo from your citation. This photo, and your citation, are THE SAME photo, taken by Joaquin Matamalos Zanon. Zanon is an excellent photographer and apparently specializes in photos of birds. He photographs with a precise focus and a very narrow depth of field; something very hard to do but something that creates excellent images. In his portfolio there are some excellent insect photos that were undoubtedly shot while he was stalking bird photos. And, in many cases, he has supplied names for the insects involved. A nice thing to do, but that does not mean that he was correct in the ID's. After all he is a photographer with a secondary knowledge in birds and he is not an entomologist with any particular knowledge of insects and their is no guarantee that his nomenclature of mantids is correct at all. Species ID of mantids from photographs is not even possible in many cases for a professional entomologist. Particularly one without experience in working with mantids. Apparently this photo was taken in Spain, something that would make the ID of Iris oratoria more likely. However, for the purpose of Pixdaus, I think it much safer just to call it a "mantid" and let it go at that.
2010-07-14 17:54:05
That is a different species and very obviously so by just looking at it. However, as far as mantids are concerned photographs are useless as a means of identification in the first place. That is why we use microscopes and other instruments; sometimes even having to resort to dissections. The males and females in these insects are also quite different and in the past different names have been described and applied, without knowledge, to the two sexes of the same mantid.
2010-07-14 15:57:15
How about this link then ?
2010-07-14 15:51:40
Sorry PictureGirl, There is no way of knowing if this is the Med Mantis (Iris oratoria) or not. Iris oratoria was native to Mediterranean Europe but has recently turned up all over the world, so even knowing where the photo was taken would not be conclusive, but of course it would help. There are over 2000 mantid species that have been described (and possibly another 500+ that have not). There are only a few dozen for which you can even find photos of on the Internet. A lot of mantids are quite similar in appearance and cannot be determined by photographs in the first place. This particular photo is quite similar to I. oratoria except in having the very iridescent blue colours. Of course this colouration could have been digitally enhanced. No true entomologist would even attempt to identify this mantid to the species level from a photograph. As for me, I am hesitant to identify it to the genus level. My guess would be, however, that it originated from a subtropical species in Northern Africa.
2010-07-14 15:24:24
This is a Mediterranean Mantis (Iris oratoria).
2009-10-28 14:08:21
I doubt it, but then I don't know much about insects. But if you've got over 2000 'straight' species to choose from, I'm pretty sure this creature would be among them, but I ain't gonna start looking, heh.
2009-10-28 13:58:05
Poppy, do you think it might possibly be some kind of mix? like a mutt in dogs, I don't know much about insects, just a question :)
2009-10-28 13:56:22
I will check out your pic Connie, thanks! I really like the praying mantis insects regardless of which type it is.
2009-10-28 13:40:32
Since mantodea or mantises is an order of insects which contains approximately 2,200 species in 9 families, hard to tell what it is ;-) but it's neither Jeweled Flower Mantis nor Spiny Praying Mantis...
2009-10-28 11:35:47
I think it's a Spiny Praying Mantis. If you do a search under Praying Mantis, you'll see the one I posted - it's similar to this one I think.
2009-10-28 11:01:16
Thanks for the info kooki85! it's so unusual looking, and just like Birro, I thought it looked like a Praying Mantis, so it's nice to know the name.
2009-10-28 10:51:07
It looks like a Creobroter gemmatus (Jeweled Flower Mantis) to me.
2009-10-27 11:01:56
It looks like a Mantis Religiosa, but it has butterfly wings... what is it after all?
2009-10-27 05:29:50
His colors are amazing, I've never seen an insect like this one. Great pic!