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2010-06-28 09:49:53
Okay...If you CAN read, thank a teacher - If can read it in English, thank a SOLDIER.
2008-06-04 06:07:38
is that a tranny in the front?
2008-05-10 09:16:39
Patito, if you were in while the war was on, you are officially a "Viet Nam vet." You are a good man, though, to "take a back seat" to those who actually did go over there. I will join you in that sentiment. But, your contributions and mine should not be discounted. My best bud in the world was a 12 year Marine and it just so happened that he was never sent to the Gulf (the first go 'round). He's still a Gulf War vet, and his contributions to the Marine Corps were significant, I can tell you that. It takes everyone in all places - front line, or here at home, to keep the machine well oiled.
2008-05-09 23:39:59
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you, Jack...I was a college student during that era, and knew very few people who opposed the war for ideaological reasons...there was a small group of radical leftists in the anti-war movement, but most of us opposed it for the very reason your friend stated..it was un-winnable, and we were throwing young American lives into a bottomless pit...there was no 'light at the end of the tunnel' and there never would have been...the equivalent of that statement these days is Dick Cheney's statement a couple of years ago that "the insurgency in Iraq is on its last legs"...and the idea that we can "win" in Iraq is the eqivalent of the "light at the end of the tunnel" statements during the Vietnam era...and by the way, I spent four years of my young life on active military duty back then...I had the good sense to join the navy so I don't think of myself as a Vietnam veteran since I never got closer to Vietnam than San Diego..
2008-05-09 23:18:59
The American protestors against the Vietnam War generally did not oppose the war itself. Instead, they favored victory by the North Vietnamese. That's what those shouts of "Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, NLF is gonna win!" were about (NLF was the Communist National Liberation Front). In one way, they were right since no amount of American military assistance by the American Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, could have brought victory to the weak, corrupt South Vietnamese government over the ruthless North Vietnamese government. A friend of mine who fought in the war likened it to trying to sink a cork with a hammer. No matter how hard you hit it, it floats back up. Those moved today by the same anti-American sentiment which moved the Vietnam war protestors might hope for a similar futility in the Iraq War but the two cases aren't necessarily the same.
2008-05-09 22:20:18
Young lady you needing to clean some dishes haaahaaaaa
2008-05-09 20:47:28
Who cares if they were or not? Everything he said could easily apply to a valid soldier of that era. Why bother with such an accusation?
2008-05-09 13:42:35
I knew one of the students who was killed by the National Guard at Kent State. I went to a university in Canada, and became a landed immigrant there. My draft number was 76; I'd have been drafted for sure. I kept my grades up, you bet... Those years are hard to convey to younger people; there were very different circumstances. I just want to say that not everyone who "dodged the draft" disrespected the military. There was a social concept back then that is seldom mentioned anymore: a "Conscientious Objector".
2008-05-09 11:52:06
The brilliance of your comment is exceeded only by your masterful commande of the English languge.."Your are..." ???? Haw Haw Haw..Zapper zaps himself...
2008-05-09 11:46:15
Your are a fucking idiot!
2008-05-09 11:22:54
Thank you PATITO.That answered my questian.Its the same in Australia.All the best.Peace.
2008-05-09 11:12:30
Wow..it must be neat to have such incredibly sensitive supernatural powers..to be able to detect simply by a guy's choice of words whether he was actually in a war or not...hey..maybe NOBODY actually served in the military back then ? Maybe it's just something we old guys made up to fool you kids...???
2008-05-09 10:46:51
I'm also calling bullshit. Just reading the first line caused the lie detectors to explode.
2008-05-09 10:01:41
Sweet!
2008-05-09 09:09:00
Someone, I believe Kurt Vonnegut,wrote a story about that very thing....called "The Army of Mars," it was about how the people of the planet united to fight off what they believed was an invasion by aliens. Worth a read, as is most of what Vonnegut wrote.
2008-05-09 08:33:04
When you join the military you sign your person over to be used as a tool in the art of war. You're an expendable commodity. It's a risk to take if you did so just to pay for college. Killing is killing; regardless of the reason. If you're gung-ho about the shit; supporting a war or participating in it, you should ponder how life would be if we actually fought one on our own soil. Being drafted is another matter. As a people, I doubt we would tolerate it in present day; or need it for that matter. We have "smart" bombs, right? Most people behave like sheep and follow popular opinion. Those who don't are labeled as not being patriotic, or as in the past; a communist, etc... The basic truth is that as a species, humans are violent, destructive and will exhaust all resources to further their own well being. This is why, as a species, we are currently at the top of the evolutionary totem pole. We're good at exploitation and keen on fighting others for school ground rights. Only a stellar invasion could unite this planet. Only then would self preservation apply to the planet as a whole.
2008-05-09 07:49:19
Backl then a lot of students signed up to keep from being soldiers. Damn good incentive to keep your GPA up.
2008-05-09 07:47:47
How the fuck would you know whether the guy's a vet or not, dipshit ? The Vietnam war lasted over four presidential administrations, and literally hundreds of thousands of guys served in one or another branch of the armed services during those years..there are a lot of 'em still around...you think theye're all dead, or too old to use the internet?
2008-05-09 07:38:12
Soldiers sign up to kill or be killed. Students sigh up to learn.
2008-05-09 03:35:31
umm...BellCurve...you're a Vietnam vet? ok...I also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
2008-05-09 00:39:52
Eh what is a book?????? But what about you?? You know what is a wheel??? You should try to invent it. Hope you will succeed.
2008-05-08 23:43:50
I'm just waiting what laim excuse are the American Government gonna find for Iran and Syiria. To liberate them or what the fucka ever. And about the students,well it's the same all around the world,we live to good to be protesting:)
2008-05-08 22:27:55
Yiami, have you ever read a book?
2008-05-08 22:23:58
One should learn through Mistakes. A child touches a hot oven burns his fingers and it will never touch again an oven. But what is with any war, is mankind to stupid to learn the right lesson. Even more the Americans, are to stupid to take the right decision in the right time. Over the whole history of the USA, this county brought more violence to the world than good old Europe.
2008-05-08 21:24:08
How true. I fought in that war. Our technology far exceeded what the VC had, but we saw the same problem: they would get us with homemade devices. As for the draft, you couldn't be more right, every guy knew he was going to have to serve his two years. Kids like myself, who didn't even think about college, joined the military to "get it over with." By the way, the Vietnamese army of the north were one bad ass force to be reckoned with. Anyone who doubts that should read an account about the French/Vietnamese battle (1954?) at Den Ben Pu (not sure of spelling).
2008-05-08 19:17:32
There are a few...but the Iraq war hasn't made the kind of impact on the home front the Viet Nam war did, mainly because there is no military draft now as there was then. So kids aren't worried because they know they won't have to go fight even if they don't want to, and parents aren't worried about their kids going off to fight. Those were very real concerns back in the Viet Nam era. Also, the rate of casualties in Viet Nam was much higher. The total number of young Americans killed in Viet Nam was over 57 thousand. The average age of those killed was a little under 20. The level of outrage about the Iraq war has not begun to approach that of the Viet Nam war, and it probably won't. Todays's college kids are too complacent. They may think it's a stupid, pointless war, but they aren't going to go out and protest, seize buildings, fight with the police and throw rocks at the national guard troops sent to restore order.
2008-05-08 18:26:19
where are the protesters of this war?