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2010-09-16 21:48:33
HOT AIR BALLOONER - re your comment of 13 September....I just noticed it now. "The RCMP used to sponsor a "shape" balloon at Albuquerque every year that featured a mountie on a horse, however, it has been several years since I have seen it and I have no idea whatever happened to it." I may know the reason why. You may not believe this, but the RCMP, without Canadians' input, sold their image to Disney. Maybe that's why they can't participate in the Albuquerque fiesta. No wonder there is not much trust and respect for them across Canada.
2010-09-16 15:57:45
"Inappropriate and unacceptable?" What is this, a Sunday School class or a Girl Scout camp ? And may I ask which words so offended your preciously delicate sensibilities? Was it 'diddle,' or 'ass' or 'bugger?' None of those words even approach true profanity or cursing. They are merely colorful. I was not only once an English Teacher myself in a former life years ago, but a teacher of English Teachers at the University level, and when I need any advice on choice of language or how to use expletives or invective I will ask for it, thank you very much. I suggest , my dear lady, that you mind your own business!
2010-09-16 10:49:52
Mr. patito, your choice of language is completely inappropriate and unacceptable. It should not be allowed on this or any other website. You need to wash your mouth out with soap and if you need to make argumentative statements, please do it with civil language.
2010-09-16 03:07:41
Oh, go diddle your goat, you disgusting pusilanimous pile of putrid pig puke. You're just a slimey little weasel of a troll without the guts to say anything using your real name, and NOBODY gives a rat's ass what you think about anything ! Bugger Off !
2010-09-16 02:58:24
Typical patito. He drives somebody, in this case hot air ballooner, off of Pixdaus for who knows why and then he follows up with comments like this. Yes, a lot of people seem to dislike and attack patito, but it is definitely patito that does the provoking and not the other way around. Until patito made his initial attack above under the guise of broad band, the only mention that hot air ballooner had made to patito was a statement that he doubted if patito had ever been up in a hot air balloon. Whether this doubt was right or wrong, patito could have disputed if he wanted, but no he came back with a rather vicious attack under the broad band guise.
2010-09-15 16:32:27
Hot Air Ballooner is a prissy and pretentious prima donna and know-it-all who has appeared here numerous times under different names, and has made numerous grandiose and dramatic farewells when his mediocre photos weren't given the honor and tribute he felt was their due. He'll be back. Larry Sheldon is a judgemental, loud-mouthed non-producing drone, sidewalk superintendent and Monday morning quarterback who sits on his fat ass and criticizes the people who go to the trouble to find and edit and post the photos he enjoys. Unfortunately, he'll be back too.
2010-09-15 15:48:38
Hot air ballooner, everyone has his/her posts posted down and the same also for comments made as well. It has happened plenty of times to me. I don't worry too much about it though, and certainly don't lose sleep over it. I know that I have not started fights here and have tried to be civil to all here at Pixdaus. No matter what we do here or what we think, we are still people, and we have feelings and needs. And we ALL need respect. That is what I have been taught. Love is what makes the world go round and if I have done good each day, then I am happy. That is the most important thing to worry about, not what others think of your posts or comments. I think you are very talented with your photos and I thankyou for posting your work here. I especially thankyou for the photo you dedicated to me with the kangaroo hot air balloon. Please take care and thankyou again..... PictureGirl... :)
2010-09-15 10:56:14
I again repeat...I did not vote down your photos, because they certainly did not deserve -3 in one shot, nor -1. But, for the same reason, I also did not vote for them because I did not think the photography was good enough for +3 in one shot from one individual. But, that is just my opinion. That's the problem premium users have with this 3 up or 3 down in one shot. It also can be abused. I did not say your photos "are any good"; I wrote that "I don't think those photos are very good". What is unfortunate is that I did not realize you were the photographer. If I had known I would not have written that. You are one of the rare breed on this site who posts his own work. I hope you will reconsider and keep posting on Pixdaus.
2010-09-15 10:42:31
Thank you Larry for pointing out facts that I should have realized long ago. I am ending my posting and commenting with two last two photos from Cappadocia, Turkey I regret all of the balloon posts that I am responsible for over the past 3 or 4 days. I do realize, that the majority of Pixdaus users were not at all interested. A couple of commenters have made me see the light, I was trying, in patito style, to push a subject that essentially only I was interested in. Sorry. As for my comments, it seems that I was arguing a point with a single individual and that it was simply not worth it. I do enjoy hot-air ballooning, it is my foremost hobby and activity. I also enjoy photography, but quite differently than the majority of Pixdaus users. Goodbye to all.
2010-09-15 09:06:47
Patito, when a comment is made, in your style, and then gets an immediate +11 votes within a few minutes after which it receives virtually no more votes for 24 hours, it is a really good indication that you made the comment. Eleven votes in just a few minutes? I would be surprised if eleven people have even read this comment, much less voted on it.
2010-09-15 09:00:03
There are a lot of comments here, but perhaps only four or five people making them and not very many more than that reading them. It is time to quit and move ahead. Especially since Mr Patito has joined in and certainly nobody doubts that Broad Band and Patito are one and the same.
2010-09-14 10:54:50
For what it is worth, Bob the Balloon Boy is a complete phony. There is no such organization known as the International Society of Hot Air Balloonists and no such book as 'The International Guide to Hot Air Balloon Mass Ascensions'. Furthermore the address 3322 Buffalo Hump Drive, Las Cruces, New Mexico does not exist. I have no idea why 'Bob the Balloon Boy' would make such statements, however, it is clear that he is working on a personal agenda and that he is a pretty sick individual.
2010-09-14 07:00:25
Albuquerque...again I repeat...I was simply quoting the photographer. You assumed incorrectly that I thought Chambley had the biggest event. I'm not easily brainwashed or convinced of anything unless I'm provided with statistics/facts...which you have not provided.
2010-09-14 06:55:14
I'm never been to a hot air show and I don't care about who has the biggest show or festival or gathering or whatever. I'm just saying that people who make claims simply need to back them up with statistics - facts. Is that too complex, difficult for your little pea brain Hot air ballooner?
2010-09-14 06:51:16
So... "five of the pictures were cash prize winning photos out of several thousand submissions." You must be joking. What were they using - a point and shoot camera or a disposable one? Who were the judges...their mommy? As for your comment re French people being dense - I don't bother responding to racist bigots which equates to ignorance, lack of education and lack of exposure to other cultures.
2010-09-14 02:14:34
It seems we are getting a lot of comments here from people that don't know what they are talking about. People that have never been up in a hot air balloon, or even seen one up close. People that don't even know a balloon pilot, much less having spent time and conversation with one. People that have never been to a balloon fest or even a simple balloon race event. Connie, even admits to all of this while she maintains here attitude of knowing it all. I seriously doubt if patito or le grand jury have accomplished any of these tasks as well.
2010-09-14 02:03:06
So nice to hear from you patito, Connie's sometimes friend. What the hell do you know about hot air ballooning?
2010-09-14 02:00:58
The Lorraine Mondial Air Balloon event makes no claim of being the world's largest. Simply refer to their website. To compare this event with the one at Albuquerque is like comparing grapefruit to peanuts. It is self evident which one is the largest, there is no reason to work with statistics. However information is available from both event organizers as to how many balloons participate in each event. As both events are free of charge to spectators, there are no recorded figures to show this. However if you look at photos of both events you will see a huge difference in the spectators on the field. In actuality, however, perhaps only 30 to 40% of the spectators are on the field during the events.
2010-09-14 01:53:29
Grand Jury, or should I say Le Grand Jury, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Connie voted down ALL of my posts. Your not thinking the photos are any good is your opinion and you are welcome to it. However, five of the pictures were cash prize winning photos out of several thousand submissions, so there are obviously a lot of professional photo judges that would not agree with you. As for a personal character flaw for the French, perhaps "dense" would be a suitable word to describe it.
2010-09-14 01:47:37
In spite of your protesting Connie, you will never convince me otherwise. All of my photo uploads were voted down with a -3 (by a premium user such as yourself) last night at a time when you were active on Pixdaus. Your not thinking the photos are any good is your opinion and you are welcome to it. However, five of the pictures were cash prize winning photos out of several thousand submissions, so there are obviously a lot of professional photo judges that would not agree with you.
2010-09-13 21:58:08
thump.....thump thump...thump thump thump.......thump......... Hear that ? Know what it is ? It's the sound of the flowers falling off the bloody wallpaper ! thump...thump thump thump....thump.........thump........thump thump... : )
2010-09-13 21:48:21
Your comment was cute Grand Jury ;-), but it's incorrect. I don't agree nor disagree with what is being said re largest hot air balloon in the world...simply because I don't know and neither do they. Also, I really don't care - it's not important to me. I just wanted to put the information across that one does not make claims of this sort without hard evidence to back them up. No one in the comments has come with the statistics to back their claims. What I mean by "not make claims of this sort" is what is put on the WEB - on Pixdaus it doesn't matter. In order to make those claims you have to have correct statistics and comparisons for each year and then an averaging can be done. The statistics mentioned by Hot air ballooner (see the top comment) simply show what year the events started and the number of events since then, how often the events are held and how long the event lasts. None of those statistics are relevant - they do not say who has the biggest festival/gathering. He/she started with the bizarre comment "There is no such thing as the Chambley Balloon Fest. If you are referring to the Lorraine Mondial Air Balloon event, that is held at Chambley...". My caption does not give the name of the gathering nor uses the word 'fest'. It simply indicates where that gathering is held. Most of my working life involved investigations of some sort or other (criminal, union/management, security of personnel & government buildings etc). During my working years, I also spent about two years working strictly with statistics - gathering of information/statistics, analyzing and reporting (providing reports). The purpose and criteria were clearly defined/outlined by Ottawa or at the Regional level. I proceeded with that information.
2010-09-13 21:16:34
I most certainly did not vote down your recent posts. You have the right to your opinion and to express it through photos. But, I did not vote for those balloon photos because as a premium user, my vote counts for 3, and I don't think those photos are very good.
2010-09-13 16:20:45
It's doubtful that Connie is voting down your recent posts. A much more likely reason for the down-voting is that some of them aren't really very good photos. As for Connie, she will, in true Gallic fashion,argue the flowers off the wallpaper before she will concede being wrong about anything, no matter how minor or trivial. It's not a personal character flaw, it's just how the French are.
2010-09-13 13:20:01
Connie, it is apparent that you are voting down my recent posts. I suppose because you are unhappy that the Albuquerque Balloon Fest is so much bigger than anything in France that there really is no comparison. Well, thank you very much. Nobody in hot air ballooning would even consider that any event in France would be as big as the Albuquerque Balloon Fest. Or even that any event in France is as large as the Bristol even in the UK.
2010-09-13 13:15:19
It is not a guessing game as you suggest Connie. For any balloon to participate in any of these events they have to register and pay a registration fee. In addition their licenses are checked very carefully and the balloons themselves must be inspected. The exact number, as well as the identification, of each balloon in any event is well documented. The mass assents, that only take place twice a year in Albuquerque involve the largest number of balloons, but all of the balloons registered for the event do not participate. Albuquerque has divided the mass assents into three waves the past few years and has limited the number of balloons to 250 in each wave for a consistent 750 total. Many pilots cannot get into the mass assent because it is already over the 750 maximum. And of course many pilots bring two or more balloons to the event and can only pilot one at a time. A lot of the special shapes balloons avoid the mass assents and of course the gas filled balloons do not participate. Albuquerque is one of the very few venues that even has events for gas filled balloons.
2010-09-13 02:13:47
The RCMP used to sponsor a "shape" balloon at Albuquerque every year that featured a mountie on a horse, however, it has been several years since I have seen it and I have no idea whatever happened to it.
2010-09-11 21:49:12
See above for my response...your comment is also up there...it ascended.
2010-09-11 21:45:15
Not to belittle the point mon ami(e), but where did you get the information that almost all certified pilots are American? From an American source? (said with a great deal of glee and jest). I am a little bit pessimistic without my facts; it is that French blood that courses through my veins when no wine is mixed with it. Our esteemed and noble RCMP can look at a huge crowd and determine a very good approximate of the size; especially when those crazy Frenchies in Montréal riot after a hockey game. Perhaps we can send them to Albuquerque this October, oui? They will do it for free; they like very big balloons. Then, you are welcome to keep them. Alas, they are a great pain in the butt of most British Columbians these days. We've tried to send them to Nunavut near the Artic Circle, but they much prefer staying here enjoying the ambiance of the West Coast. days.
2010-09-11 10:25:24
What I am saying is that the Albuquerque International Balloon Festival has been held 38 times and each time for two weeks duration. Since there are usually two events each day at a balloon festival (one early morning and one evening), Albuquerque has possibly had 1064 events. For Lorraine Mondial, having been held 11 times and for one week each, this would mean 154 events. Since attendance is generally free of charge at these ballooning events, it is impossible to get head counts of attendees. However, the primary balloonist in each balloon has to have a pilot's license and be balloon certified and this data is available. Almost all of the certified hot air balloon pilots in the world are US citizens. And I do agree with you, the Web certainly does have a lot of misleading information.
2010-09-11 10:19:39
What I am saying is that the Albuquerque International Balloon Festival has been held 38 times and each time for two weeks duration. Since there are usually two events each day at a balloon festival (one early morning and one evening), Albuquerque has possibly had 1064 events. For Lorraine Mondial, having been held 11 times and for one week each, this would mean 154 events. Since attendance is generally free of charge at these ballooning events, it is impossible to get head counts of attendees. However, the primary balloonist in each balloon has to have a pilot's license and be balloon certified and this data is available. Almost all of the certified hot air balloon pilots in the world are US citizens. And I do agree with you, the Web certainly does have a lot of misleading information.
2010-09-11 09:50:55
Why the Balloon Federation of America? Why not the Balloon Federation of Europe? ;-)
2010-09-11 07:31:19
I believe the best source of information is the Balloon Federation of America. The BFA provides information regarding balloon festivals all over the world. And while they have no control over what any particular festival claims, they do provide facts and figures that anybody can use to provide their own answers.
2010-09-11 07:21:11
By any of your mentioned criteria, Connie, no balloon fest in France would come close to being able to make a claim as the world's largest. There are at least a half a dozen that have more balloons, participants and observers. There is no such thing as the Chambley Balloon Fest. If you are referring to the Lorraine Mondial Air Balloon even, that is held at Chambley, then consider these figures: Albuquerque International Festival started in 1972 Bristol Balloonfest, Bristol, UK started in 1979 Wersteiner Balloonfest, Germany started in 1986 Lorraine Mondial, at Chambley, Fr started in 1989 Albuquerque, Bristol and Wersteiner are held EVERY year; Lorraine Mondial EVERY OTHER YEAR. Albuquerque ...............................................38 festivals Bristol..........................................................31 festivals Wersteiner.................................................. 24 festivals Lorraine Mondial........................................ 11 festivals The Annual Albuquerque festival lasts 2 weeks The bi-Annual Lorraine Mondial festival l week
2010-09-10 09:57:38
The first person to comment was Albuquerque. He/she questioned if Chambley's gathering was the largest in the world - as my caption indicated. I’m not absolutely sure as to what the photographer meant by 'gathering'. Gathering of people/animals (which are normally what the word refers to) or gathering of things (i.e. balloons), which would be the wrong word to use. Thanks for the info BtheBB re the Guide. The Guide refers to the factor in determining the number of hot air balloons ascending within a certain period of time - for competitive purposes (Flight of the Nations Mass Ascension - see below). This is interesting/informative information, but that section of the Guide does not address the issue of what factors or criteria are used in determining the largest gathering or festival…which is what this is all about (see above caption). That is not what the Guide is about. Albuquerque have various events and competitions - from “Flight of the Nations Mass Ascension” to “Piloting, skill and speed” competitions. Albuquerque is a popular location and attracts a lot of participants because of the weather and winds, which are ideal for balloonists. Quoting Wikipedia “Part of the reason for the success of the Fiesta are the cool Albuquerque morning temperatures in October and the Albuquerque box. The "box" is a set of predictable wind patterns that can be exploited to navigate the balloons. At low elevations the winds tend to be southerly, but at higher elevations they tend to be northerly. Balloonists use these winds to navigate in a vertical box: they ascend slightly from the launch park, move south, ascend further, move north, descend, and repeat the box or land back in the launch park or quite nearby. By the way, I could not find any sites re the Guide and the Society. Anyways, after reading all this, I would love to go to Albuquerque in October to participate in the fiesta.
2010-09-10 07:47:14
From: 'The International Guide to Hot Air Balloon Mass Ascensions,' Chapter 1, p 22..."The determining factor in assesing the size of hot air balloon ascensions for competetive purposes will be the number of balloons that ascend from a particular designated locale...within a period not to exceed 24 hours." Published by the International Society of Hot Air Balloonists, 3322 Buffalo Hump Drive, Las Cruces, New Mexico: 2009 edition.
2010-09-10 06:27:18
I forgot to add that Wikipedia is the only site that mentioned 750 baloons. The information on Wikipedia is only as good was what the person wrote. Anyone can write their 'facts' on Wikipedia. It's notorious for its errors. One can say what is a 'reasonable' criteria, but it does not make it fact; it's an assumption. The Albuquerque Hot-Air Balloon Festival folks state there was 550 balloons for the 2009 festival. That figure could have been inflated by those folks for promotional/tourism purposes. A blogspot, whoever that is, wrote that 329 balloons when up at the 2009 Chambley gathering. Those figures would be different every years. I cannot find in my research how many balloons go up in Chambley and Albuquerque on any given year or on average (done by a neutral third party). Without that it's only a guessing game.
2010-09-10 05:43:43
You determined the criteria? Or did you read somewhere that the criteria - the only one - is the number of balloons in the air?
2010-09-09 23:56:53
In determining which is the largest mass hot-air balloon ascension the world there is only one reasonable criteron, and that is how many balloons ascend. You could argue all sorts of other meausrments like number of hot dog stands, bra size of female pilots, number of motel rooms within a five radius of the launch site or what have you, but the only variable that matters is..how many balloons go up ! In Albuquerque, it's around 750. If anybody can top that then they're bigger. If not, Albuqurque is bigger. Simple.
2010-09-09 22:55:44
It doesn't really matter to me which locations has the largest hot-air balloon festival/gathering in the world. But, I did do some research anyways on it. A few sites claims it's Chambley; others claim it's Albuquerque, or sites claim...What it comes down to is that there is no certainty which one is the largest. That is because there is no indication that those locations got together and agreed on a criteria or set of criterias to make that determination. Some potential criteria or set of criterias: - number of participants (individuals and/or sponsors) - number of balloons - number of attendees/observers - number of 'side' venues (booths, sponsors, off-site events etc) - number of days the event was held - others Without criterias, it's a guessing game. Any location can make the claim they have the largest air-balloon event; it's good advertisement.
2010-09-09 10:33:47
Presumably this is the Montgolfiades de Dole Balloon Fest held at the former Chambley Air Base in France. If so it is the largest hot air balloon fest in France, but not in the world, or even in Europe. The Bristol Balloon Fest in the UK is the largest in Europe and the Wersteiner Fest in Germany is the 2nd largest in Europe. The Albuquerque Fest in Albuquerque, New Mexico is, by far, the largest in the world.
2010-09-08 23:38:29
I quoted what the photographer wrote.
2010-09-08 12:30:44
I am wondering Connie, what is your basis for proclaiming this 'the largest balloon gathering in the world'? The International Balloon Festival in Albuquerque, New Mexico makes the same claim and has been doing so for at least the last 30 years. I have always assumed that they were right. I know that the Kodak film company used to proclaim that the International Balloon Festival in Albuquerque was the world's number one user of photographic film. I don't know if you are right or wrong, but I am curious.